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	<title>Comments on: TechReckoning: Mapping Macrobes</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Bobe</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/09/18/techreckoning-mapping-macrobes/comment-page-1/#comment-37562</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Bobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concept, but I&#039;m not sure this scenario is technically feasible or likely.  A person who grabs a public door knob will acquire microbes from places they have never visited, etc.  Microbes move around, as people do.  Any microbial signature of a geographic location is also likely to change, like the weather, which means its not uniquely identifying (as a fingerprint is).  I&#039;ll ask around and what others think.

Thanks,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept, but I&#8217;m not sure this scenario is technically feasible or likely.  A person who grabs a public door knob will acquire microbes from places they have never visited, etc.  Microbes move around, as people do.  Any microbial signature of a geographic location is also likely to change, like the weather, which means its not uniquely identifying (as a fingerprint is).  I&#8217;ll ask around and what others think.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: jimt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason,

Yes- I see your point - that was the result of trying to keep within a word limit for an article. The concern I was pointing at was that of states and other powerful players using microbiomic sampling to track people&#039;s movements and associations. Imagine that you could, using metagenomic analysis, find a sort of genomic &#039;fingerprint&#039; describing microbial populations in different locations and you can then identify that &#039;fingerprint&#039; in the microbiomes of people who have travelled to that place.  you would be  developing a tool for  surveillance authorities to work out where people have been. It could be a method of tracking dissidents. 
jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>Yes- I see your point &#8211; that was the result of trying to keep within a word limit for an article. The concern I was pointing at was that of states and other powerful players using microbiomic sampling to track people&#8217;s movements and associations. Imagine that you could, using metagenomic analysis, find a sort of genomic &#8216;fingerprint&#8217; describing microbial populations in different locations and you can then identify that &#8216;fingerprint&#8217; in the microbiomes of people who have travelled to that place.  you would be  developing a tool for  surveillance authorities to work out where people have been. It could be a method of tracking dissidents.<br />
jim</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Bobe</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/09/18/techreckoning-mapping-macrobes/comment-page-1/#comment-37555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Bobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim -

The article is informative, but I&#039;m trying to understand the last sentence here: &quot;Instead, mapping and controlling microbes may become interchangeable with tools mapping and controlling human populations.&quot;

This sentence is, honestly, unhelpful to those of us that are interested in mapping our own microbiomes, yet would like to become informed about the possible risks of doing so.    

Do you have any specific risks you can share?

Thanks very much,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim -</p>
<p>The article is informative, but I&#8217;m trying to understand the last sentence here: &#8220;Instead, mapping and controlling microbes may become interchangeable with tools mapping and controlling human populations.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sentence is, honestly, unhelpful to those of us that are interested in mapping our own microbiomes, yet would like to become informed about the possible risks of doing so.    </p>
<p>Do you have any specific risks you can share?</p>
<p>Thanks very much,<br />
Jason</p>
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