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		<title>Comment on TechReckoning - The black hole of unknowing by Neil Sorensen</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/08/21/techreckoning-the-black-hole-of-unknowing/#comment-37505</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nearly complete lack of technological governance worldwide is just a mirror of the lack of democratic governance in general, and consequently little is being done on an international level. I often urge the reinstatement of the independent Office of Technological Assessment in my country in the United States, which did a relatively good job during its short existence (1972-1995), but even my mentors would support this initiative suggest it would be a futile waste of energy, as neither party would support it; too many people are too corrupt on too many levels. With the collider finally going online this week, the discussion isn't about the risks or implications of the technology -it's about the fact that the EU is pulling ahead of the rest of the world in terms of technological advancement and research into basic science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nearly complete lack of technological governance worldwide is just a mirror of the lack of democratic governance in general, and consequently little is being done on an international level. I often urge the reinstatement of the independent Office of Technological Assessment in my country in the United States, which did a relatively good job during its short existence (1972-1995), but even my mentors would support this initiative suggest it would be a futile waste of energy, as neither party would support it; too many people are too corrupt on too many levels. With the collider finally going online this week, the discussion isn&#8217;t about the risks or implications of the technology -it&#8217;s about the fact that the EU is pulling ahead of the rest of the world in terms of technological advancement and research into basic science.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TechReckoning - The black hole of unknowing by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/08/21/techreckoning-the-black-hole-of-unknowing/#comment-37500</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Hadron Collider is coming online Wednesday, 9-10-08--just FYI
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/cerns-17-mile-long-atom-s_n_124653.html 

GENEVA — It has been called an Alice in Wonderland investigation into the makeup of the universe _ or dangerous tampering with nature that could spell doomsday.

Whatever the case, the most powerful atom-smasher ever built comes online Wednesday, eagerly anticipated by scientists worldwide who have awaited this moment for two decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Hadron Collider is coming online Wednesday, 9-10-08&#8211;just FYI<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/cerns-17-mile-long-atom-s_n_124653.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/cerns-17-mile-long-atom-s_n_124653.html</a> </p>
<p>GENEVA — It has been called an Alice in Wonderland investigation into the makeup of the universe _ or dangerous tampering with nature that could spell doomsday.</p>
<p>Whatever the case, the most powerful atom-smasher ever built comes online Wednesday, eagerly anticipated by scientists worldwide who have awaited this moment for two decades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wrong Response to Food Crisis by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/06/06/wrong-response-to-food-crisis/#comment-37475</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote to Dr. Tabo and Dr. Twomlow to confirm that the varieties they used were not GM, considering ICRISAT's reputation.  Dr. Twomlow confirmed that they are NOT GM.  So this is conventional farming.  Here is my response, which I will not link, but it can be duplicated by inquiry, I am sure.

For reference I can assure you that at no time in our work in west Africa have we ever used genetically modified materials.  We always used the farmers preferred varieties.  ICRISAT has a strict code of ethics re genetically modified crops work and I refer you to our Deputy Director General Research, who was currently in charge of our Biotechnology work - he's better positioned to provide detailed comments on ICRISATs views, the extent of work in this area, the materials we have available for the media etc.

 

Best

 

Steve

 

Dr Steve Twomlow

Global Theme Leader Land, Water and Agrodiversity Management

ICRISAT-Bulawayo

Matopos Research Station

PO BOx 776

Bulawayo

Zimbabwe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote to Dr. Tabo and Dr. Twomlow to confirm that the varieties they used were not GM, considering ICRISAT&#8217;s reputation.  Dr. Twomlow confirmed that they are NOT GM.  So this is conventional farming.  Here is my response, which I will not link, but it can be duplicated by inquiry, I am sure.</p>
<p>For reference I can assure you that at no time in our work in west Africa have we ever used genetically modified materials.  We always used the farmers preferred varieties.  ICRISAT has a strict code of ethics re genetically modified crops work and I refer you to our Deputy Director General Research, who was currently in charge of our Biotechnology work - he&#8217;s better positioned to provide detailed comments on ICRISATs views, the extent of work in this area, the materials we have available for the media etc.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p>Dr Steve Twomlow</p>
<p>Global Theme Leader Land, Water and Agrodiversity Management</p>
<p>ICRISAT-Bulawayo</p>
<p>Matopos Research Station</p>
<p>PO BOx 776</p>
<p>Bulawayo</p>
<p>Zimbabwe</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Mooney&#8217;s Testimony on Biofuels to Canadian Senate by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/06/27/pat-mooneys-biofuels-testimony-in-the-canadian-senate/#comment-37474</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a bit of an update on GM wheat and biofuel.  The two do go well hand-in-hand.  I believe the agreement in 2004 is that the US would not proceed with GM wheat without Canada and vice-versa:

http://www.truthabouttrade.org/content/view/12299/54/

Wheat Leaders Work on Goals 

Red River Farm Network
Original Publish Date: August 25, 2008

The National Association of Wheat Growers Foundation Development Committee is concentrating on strategic planning. During last week's meeting in Canada, the committee focused on ways to implement initiatives developed earlier this year. Those efforts include plans to increase wheat yields 20 percent within ten years; capture energy opportunities, including cellulosic ethanol production and improve risk management opportunities for wheat growers. After the committee meeting wrapped up, NAWG representatives met with Canadian wheat industry leaders to discuss biotechnology commercialization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a bit of an update on GM wheat and biofuel.  The two do go well hand-in-hand.  I believe the agreement in 2004 is that the US would not proceed with GM wheat without Canada and vice-versa:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthabouttrade.org/content/view/12299/54/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthabouttrade.org/content/view/12299/54/</a></p>
<p>Wheat Leaders Work on Goals </p>
<p>Red River Farm Network<br />
Original Publish Date: August 25, 2008</p>
<p>The National Association of Wheat Growers Foundation Development Committee is concentrating on strategic planning. During last week&#8217;s meeting in Canada, the committee focused on ways to implement initiatives developed earlier this year. Those efforts include plans to increase wheat yields 20 percent within ten years; capture energy opportunities, including cellulosic ethanol production and improve risk management opportunities for wheat growers. After the committee meeting wrapped up, NAWG representatives met with Canadian wheat industry leaders to discuss biotechnology commercialization.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wrong Response to Food Crisis by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/06/06/wrong-response-to-food-crisis/#comment-37472</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what a little manure and microdoses of fertilizer can do in SubSaharan Africa; I'd like to see biotech match this:

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/08/29/fertilizer-wheat-crop.html?dcitc=w01-101-ae-0001

Aug. 29, 2008 -- A simple and cheap technique of applying fertilizer in small doses at the right time can double wheat crop yields in sub-Saharan Africa and feed millions of people, agronomists said in a report.

A four-year experiment with the technique in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger has boosted sorghum and millet production by 44 to 120 percent, and family incomes by 50 to 130 percent, said an International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) report published Thursday.

Farmers are quick to learn and can be trained in just one week, Tabo said.

He said they are shown that only six grams of fertilizer per plant is enough, and that small holes dug in the dry ground and filled with manure before the rainy season will hold water for a longer time.

When it starts to rain, a micro-dosis of fertilizer and a plant are placed in each hole so roots can spread quickly an retain even more water, Tabo said.

"Land degradation is particularly acute in sub-Saharan Africa where the soil has been overused, coupled with low, unpredictable rainfall," he stressed.

Farmers in sub-Saharan Africa are so poor they exploit the land to the maximum and consider the cost of fertilizer too high a risk in case of a bad harvest.

"With microdosing, they don't invest much and that reduces their risk," Tabo said.

Fertilizer in Africa is difficult to find and costs two to six times more than the average world price because of low sale volumes, difficulty of transport and because it is not produced locally.

With micro-doses, farmers only need 10 percent of the fertilizer used for wheat and five percent for corn, the ICRISAT report said.

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Doesn't it seem like overkill to go to the lengths of genetically engineering the dna when something as simple as microdoses of fertilizer can yield a comparatively huge increase in yield--safely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what a little manure and microdoses of fertilizer can do in SubSaharan Africa; I&#8217;d like to see biotech match this:</p>
<p><a href="http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/08/29/fertilizer-wheat-crop.html?dcitc=w01-101-ae-0001" rel="nofollow">http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/08/29/fertilizer-wheat-crop.html?dcitc=w01-101-ae-0001</a></p>
<p>Aug. 29, 2008 &#8212; A simple and cheap technique of applying fertilizer in small doses at the right time can double wheat crop yields in sub-Saharan Africa and feed millions of people, agronomists said in a report.</p>
<p>A four-year experiment with the technique in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger has boosted sorghum and millet production by 44 to 120 percent, and family incomes by 50 to 130 percent, said an International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) report published Thursday.</p>
<p>Farmers are quick to learn and can be trained in just one week, Tabo said.</p>
<p>He said they are shown that only six grams of fertilizer per plant is enough, and that small holes dug in the dry ground and filled with manure before the rainy season will hold water for a longer time.</p>
<p>When it starts to rain, a micro-dosis of fertilizer and a plant are placed in each hole so roots can spread quickly an retain even more water, Tabo said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Land degradation is particularly acute in sub-Saharan Africa where the soil has been overused, coupled with low, unpredictable rainfall,&#8221; he stressed.</p>
<p>Farmers in sub-Saharan Africa are so poor they exploit the land to the maximum and consider the cost of fertilizer too high a risk in case of a bad harvest.</p>
<p>&#8220;With microdosing, they don&#8217;t invest much and that reduces their risk,&#8221; Tabo said.</p>
<p>Fertilizer in Africa is difficult to find and costs two to six times more than the average world price because of low sale volumes, difficulty of transport and because it is not produced locally.</p>
<p>With micro-doses, farmers only need 10 percent of the fertilizer used for wheat and five percent for corn, the ICRISAT report said.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Doesn&#8217;t it seem like overkill to go to the lengths of genetically engineering the dna when something as simple as microdoses of fertilizer can yield a comparatively huge increase in yield&#8211;safely?</p>
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		<title>Comment on TechReckoning - The black hole of unknowing by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/08/21/techreckoning-the-black-hole-of-unknowing/#comment-37461</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the question we have to ask ourselves is, "Do we really want to know where all the missing anti-matter is?"  Think about it.  Carefully.  It's kind of mind-expanding to contemplate, but maybe we should stop there.  At least for now, until we know what we are doing.  But these are the mere words of a rambling madwoman as Michelangelo L. Mangano explains below:

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-sci-collider13apr13,0,5535244.story

"If it were just crackpots, we could wave them away," the physicist said in an interview at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, known by its French acronym, CERN. "But some are real physicists."


Crackpot = not a real physicist.  Just an ordinary concerned resident of Planet Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the question we have to ask ourselves is, &#8220;Do we really want to know where all the missing anti-matter is?&#8221;  Think about it.  Carefully.  It&#8217;s kind of mind-expanding to contemplate, but maybe we should stop there.  At least for now, until we know what we are doing.  But these are the mere words of a rambling madwoman as Michelangelo L. Mangano explains below:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-sci-collider13apr13,0,5535244.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-sci-collider13apr13,0,5535244.story</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If it were just crackpots, we could wave them away,&#8221; the physicist said in an interview at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, known by its French acronym, CERN. &#8220;But some are real physicists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Crackpot = not a real physicist.  Just an ordinary concerned resident of Planet Earth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TechReckoning - The black hole of unknowing by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/08/21/techreckoning-the-black-hole-of-unknowing/#comment-37460</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Someone read it, defying the odds. Maybe there is hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Someone read it, defying the odds. Maybe there is hope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Mooney&#8217;s Testimony on Biofuels to Canadian Senate by persephone</title>
		<link>http://etcblog.org/2008/06/27/pat-mooneys-biofuels-testimony-in-the-canadian-senate/#comment-37419</link>
		<dc:creator>persephone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please note that I am not throwing stones here.  Considering the fact that most of our US energy policy was created in secret by VP Cheney and oil execs, I was interested to learn how Canada's biofuel debate proceeded.

In reading over the minutes from the Debate in the Senate on June 26th, 
http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/2/parlbus/chambus/senate/DEB-E/073db_2008-06-26-e.htm?Language=E&#38;Parl=39&#38;Ses=2#64

It would have been enlightening to access the entire testimonies of the witnesses who testified to the benefits and detriments of C-33.  But I haven't located them yet. Fortunately, we do have Mr. Mooney's compassionate and intelligent report which only leads me to wonder what was said in opposition that swayed the debate and why?  In the end, with whom did the government see fit to stand and on what basis?  How many independent environmental or social scientists were in favor of the biofuel scheme?  Are there any links to other testimony ETC can provide?  

I see in a different document, 
http://cmte.parl.gc.ca/Content/HOC/Committee/392/AGRI/Evidence/EV3299494/AGRIEV17-E.PDF
from February 2008 some of those who gave earlier testimony:

"I want to welcome all of you here to continue our study of Bill C-33, a bill enabling the government to set up our mandate on biofuels.
I want to welcome to the table today Roger Samson, executive
director of Resource Efficient Agricultural Production Canada, or
REAP Canada; and from Rothsay we have Todd Moser. From the
Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association we have Mark
Nantais; and from the Canadian Petroleum Products Institute we
have Gilles Morel and Gene Carrignan. Welcome to the committee."
*******************************************
Many of their points would make for a good discussion as well.  How sound is their science?  Any ulterior, self-serving motives?
But back to the June 26th minutes, below:

Hon. Elaine McCoy: "We had excellent presentations from a range of people involved in the production of ethanol and biodiesel. Refiners were there. People from Oxfam were there; and people were there representing the voices of the poor around the world." 
[These are the elusive testimonies I have not found]
"We have what is a competition between a hierarchy of values. We all value helping the poor. We all value reducing greenhouse gases. We all value helping farmers. It is grain farmers when we say "farmers," by the way. In Alberta, we want to ensure our livestock industry is healthy. [here,here! nice to have that little luxury] When grain prices go up, their profits go down and vice versa...."
***********************************
I'm not sure how biofuel mandates will satisfy any of the higher values, save perhaps--and only perhaps--relatively short-term goals of farmers and big business. However, Sen, McCoy's conclusion that this all comes down to a value judgement--a hierarchy of competing values--rings true. I wonder who provided testimony that biofuel mandates will decrease greenhouse gas levels and help the poor in Africa or elsewhere.  Consider how tragic this last year of US mandates has proven. How will a Canadian biofuel mandate satisfy that hierarchy of values to which Sen. McCoy called attention?  Just what is the highest order of values?  Somewhat confused by her testimony, I must ask, exactly, what are we meant to glean from this anecdote:

 Senator McCoy: "I acknowledge the honourable senator's superior experience in the field. Let me tell you one little story that we heard from a person who is working in the development field and who described one very appropriate use of biofuel technology.
It comes from Africa. It is a small village, and people there go out and gather castor oil beans. Children go out at recess, if they are lucky enough to be in school, and they bring them home and crush those castor oil beans, which becomes a biofuel. They use that to light their lamps at night so that they can study. That is a biofuel solution. It was brought to us by way of saying, "You know, this is not all bad." It is the nuanced understanding, the scale and the way that we apply it that makes the difference between success and failure."
***************************************

From that story I can not honestly tell if the Senator was using that tale in favor of or against the proposed biofuel scheme. The scale and application that she rightly mentions raise the question.   How does crushing a few little castor beans found at recess for fuel at night compare to revamping the agricultural and energy policies of the most productive farming nations?  Was Senator McCoy trying to demonstrate appropriate vs. inappropriate biofuel applications; it was difficult to tell from the transcript.  If not, the whole issue is reduced to a nugget-sized bean, at once diminishing and magnifying the staggering importance of this policy to all of us--even those of us who aren't forced to scrounge for food or fuel. Yet.  

Is this little anecdote the answer our governments are giving to Mr. Mooney's message from those representing the impoverished and hungry in Africa?  The castor bean, a source of fuel oil and also of poison--just 8 little beans are enough to kill an adult.  Hopefully someone is warning the children that even the castor bean, a natural, low-tech form of energy, is a mixed blessing.  

IMO, the governments of today are lacking just that "nuanced understanding" to which Senator McCoy referred.  Either they are not seeing the whole picture or else their hierarchy of values is terribly skewed.  But at least the Senator is asking for a "continued public debate" later this Fall.  It looks as though there is still time to collect more data and evidence of any public/scientific opposition to the bill.  Hopefully there will be enough interest and resolve from all parties to fuel the debate.

I believe our adolescent society is reaching a new and long awaited level of maturity.  We are beginning to recognize ourselves as an integrated part of the whole system in which we exist, our niche in society and the natural world.  We realize we have to make better choices about energy and other resources, but we may be misguided when we rely on big business and career politicians to create that policy.  We need to base our decisions on sound science and include the interests of all nations.  Everything I have learned in life convinces me that our survival will ultimately depend on the energy choices our governments make right now, and that the survival of so many others who are not being given the choices that they deserve already does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please note that I am not throwing stones here.  Considering the fact that most of our US energy policy was created in secret by VP Cheney and oil execs, I was interested to learn how Canada&#8217;s biofuel debate proceeded.</p>
<p>In reading over the minutes from the Debate in the Senate on June 26th,<br />
<a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/2/parlbus/chambus/senate/DEB-E/073db_2008-06-26-e.htm?Language=E&amp;Parl=39&amp;Ses=2#64" rel="nofollow">http://www.parl.gc.ca/39/2/parlbus/chambus/senate/DEB-E/073db_2008-06-26-e.htm?Language=E&amp;Parl=39&amp;Ses=2#64</a></p>
<p>It would have been enlightening to access the entire testimonies of the witnesses who testified to the benefits and detriments of C-33.  But I haven&#8217;t located them yet. Fortunately, we do have Mr. Mooney&#8217;s compassionate and intelligent report which only leads me to wonder what was said in opposition that swayed the debate and why?  In the end, with whom did the government see fit to stand and on what basis?  How many independent environmental or social scientists were in favor of the biofuel scheme?  Are there any links to other testimony ETC can provide?  </p>
<p>I see in a different document,<br />
<a href="http://cmte.parl.gc.ca/Content/HOC/Committee/392/AGRI/Evidence/EV3299494/AGRIEV17-E.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://cmte.parl.gc.ca/Content/HOC/Committee/392/AGRI/Evidence/EV3299494/AGRIEV17-E.PDF</a><br />
from February 2008 some of those who gave earlier testimony:</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to welcome all of you here to continue our study of Bill C-33, a bill enabling the government to set up our mandate on biofuels.<br />
I want to welcome to the table today Roger Samson, executive<br />
director of Resource Efficient Agricultural Production Canada, or<br />
REAP Canada; and from Rothsay we have Todd Moser. From the<br />
Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers&#8217; Association we have Mark<br />
Nantais; and from the Canadian Petroleum Products Institute we<br />
have Gilles Morel and Gene Carrignan. Welcome to the committee.&#8221;<br />
*******************************************<br />
Many of their points would make for a good discussion as well.  How sound is their science?  Any ulterior, self-serving motives?<br />
But back to the June 26th minutes, below:</p>
<p>Hon. Elaine McCoy: &#8220;We had excellent presentations from a range of people involved in the production of ethanol and biodiesel. Refiners were there. People from Oxfam were there; and people were there representing the voices of the poor around the world.&#8221;<br />
[These are the elusive testimonies I have not found]<br />
&#8220;We have what is a competition between a hierarchy of values. We all value helping the poor. We all value reducing greenhouse gases. We all value helping farmers. It is grain farmers when we say &#8220;farmers,&#8221; by the way. In Alberta, we want to ensure our livestock industry is healthy. [here,here! nice to have that little luxury] When grain prices go up, their profits go down and vice versa&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
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I&#8217;m not sure how biofuel mandates will satisfy any of the higher values, save perhaps&#8211;and only perhaps&#8211;relatively short-term goals of farmers and big business. However, Sen, McCoy&#8217;s conclusion that this all comes down to a value judgement&#8211;a hierarchy of competing values&#8211;rings true. I wonder who provided testimony that biofuel mandates will decrease greenhouse gas levels and help the poor in Africa or elsewhere.  Consider how tragic this last year of US mandates has proven. How will a Canadian biofuel mandate satisfy that hierarchy of values to which Sen. McCoy called attention?  Just what is the highest order of values?  Somewhat confused by her testimony, I must ask, exactly, what are we meant to glean from this anecdote:</p>
<p> Senator McCoy: &#8220;I acknowledge the honourable senator&#8217;s superior experience in the field. Let me tell you one little story that we heard from a person who is working in the development field and who described one very appropriate use of biofuel technology.<br />
It comes from Africa. It is a small village, and people there go out and gather castor oil beans. Children go out at recess, if they are lucky enough to be in school, and they bring them home and crush those castor oil beans, which becomes a biofuel. They use that to light their lamps at night so that they can study. That is a biofuel solution. It was brought to us by way of saying, &#8220;You know, this is not all bad.&#8221; It is the nuanced understanding, the scale and the way that we apply it that makes the difference between success and failure.&#8221;<br />
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<p>From that story I can not honestly tell if the Senator was using that tale in favor of or against the proposed biofuel scheme. The scale and application that she rightly mentions raise the question.   How does crushing a few little castor beans found at recess for fuel at night compare to revamping the agricultural and energy policies of the most productive farming nations?  Was Senator McCoy trying to demonstrate appropriate vs. inappropriate biofuel applications; it was difficult to tell from the transcript.  If not, the whole issue is reduced to a nugget-sized bean, at once diminishing and magnifying the staggering importance of this policy to all of us&#8211;even those of us who aren&#8217;t forced to scrounge for food or fuel. Yet.  </p>
<p>Is this little anecdote the answer our governments are giving to Mr. Mooney&#8217;s message from those representing the impoverished and hungry in Africa?  The castor bean, a source of fuel oil and also of poison&#8211;just 8 little beans are enough to kill an adult.  Hopefully someone is warning the children that even the castor bean, a natural, low-tech form of energy, is a mixed blessing.  </p>
<p>IMO, the governments of today are lacking just that &#8220;nuanced understanding&#8221; to which Senator McCoy referred.  Either they are not seeing the whole picture or else their hierarchy of values is terribly skewed.  But at least the Senator is asking for a &#8220;continued public debate&#8221; later this Fall.  It looks as though there is still time to collect more data and evidence of any public/scientific opposition to the bill.  Hopefully there will be enough interest and resolve from all parties to fuel the debate.</p>
<p>I believe our adolescent society is reaching a new and long awaited level of maturity.  We are beginning to recognize ourselves as an integrated part of the whole system in which we exist, our niche in society and the natural world.  We realize we have to make better choices about energy and other resources, but we may be misguided when we rely on big business and career politicians to create that policy.  We need to base our decisions on sound science and include the interests of all nations.  Everything I have learned in life convinces me that our survival will ultimately depend on the energy choices our governments make right now, and that the survival of so many others who are not being given the choices that they deserve already does.</p>
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		<link>http://etcblog.org/2007/06/25/the-cool-and-the-concerned/#comment-5482</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for being there, these reports are a useful corrective. The "cool" folk remind me of 1970s-era computer nerds, and part of the interesting comparison is that they really, as far as I can tell, had very little clue what their cool programs would be used for. Are these SynBio engineers onto revolutionary techniques and if so what we they -- or their successors -- do with them? The biofuels and bioweapons concepts seem to me distractions, albeit very powerful sources of funding. I suspect the real applications have not yet been imagined. Or will SynBio run into hard roadblocks as did gene therapy (which still gets hundreds of millions of research dollars)? Seems like an open question to me ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for being there, these reports are a useful corrective. The &#8220;cool&#8221; folk remind me of 1970s-era computer nerds, and part of the interesting comparison is that they really, as far as I can tell, had very little clue what their cool programs would be used for. Are these SynBio engineers onto revolutionary techniques and if so what we they &#8212; or their successors &#8212; do with them? The biofuels and bioweapons concepts seem to me distractions, albeit very powerful sources of funding. I suspect the real applications have not yet been imagined. Or will SynBio run into hard roadblocks as did gene therapy (which still gets hundreds of millions of research dollars)? Seems like an open question to me &#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>jimt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks... I've changed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230; I&#8217;ve changed it.</p>
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